Jean-Pierre, The French Clique
8.3.104

Sheesh! A thread dedicated to ring to ring bickering? How about a thread for working towards a common goal?

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(57 replies, posted in Seed: The Second Chance)

Added some stuff into TAU Space, including an article about the expedition in DVI-Inet. It's an edit so it won't show as yellow.

Alsadair, Bio Security Squad
7.3.104

If I may intervene in this discussion, I'd like to give my humble opinion:

It's my experience that scientific studies in the Tower have benefitted since the Scholars began in this duty. Before that, when the scientific stations were under vote like factories, you could never know who you'd be dealing with next year. One year you might be given a go on your project, only to be cancelled by an unfortunate voting result. Next year you might get it running again, only to discover half of your experiments have become outdated. Or worse:

One year, I was studying mycotoxicology in one of the labs administered by our ring. I had a very delicate micro-ecosystem with a culture of various fungi, some of which had DNA of Da Vincian origin. My goal was to research how the different branches of DNA would interact in a controlled environment. I was just about to analyze my first results when the year came to an end..

The Umbra had decided they needed labs for their pharmaceutical research, and since our ring had expended most of our votes on some critical factory lines, we were an easy target. They outvoted us on the last minute, and refused to hear my pleas. They turned my micro-ecosystem into a cooking tank for some of their new medicine tests and recycled my fungus!

The Association of Scholars may have acted questionably in the past but it's easily outweighted by the stability they've brought to the scientific community. I'm working on several research projects at the moment, all of which span several years, and can be reasonably confident that they won't be haphazardly killed. Of course, the Scholars have cancelled projects before, but not without good reason, and certainly not because of a lost vote!

Isabel, The Horizon, Senior Member
3.3.104

Mohale wrote:

You must be referring to the donations we've received, or perhaps our consultation service. Yes, we do receive contributions from people who wish to support research but are not scientifically inclined themselves. We also offer consultation services to those who wish to do research but aren't certain how to do it safely and effectively. We do ask a fair compensation for that. You may use "haggling" or other dirty words for it if you like.

Let's have a poll: does anyone here actually buy that?

Mohale, The Association of Scholars, Council Member
3.3.104

*Sigh*

I've made some calculations. If I had spent the time I've spent responding to these accusations over and over again doing actual research, we'd be building new Seed ships by now...

Isabel wrote:

They've taken it upon themselves not only to watch the safety regulations but also to decide which projects get done, blatantly favoring their own agendas.

The decicion of the Ringleader Meeting was to grant us the administration rights to the science stations. As you know, in exchange our ringmembers can't become administrations elsewhere, allowing us to focus on our primary duty: science. An integral part of administration rights has always been the ability to make calls on what will be done with the equipment. There's nothing more to it, plain and simple.

Compared to many other rings, our procedures for choosing the supported projects are transparent and fair, no matter what some denigrators may say. The documents on our council meetings is freely available as well as the reasonings to the choices. Our criteria has always been the advancement of science, instead of some obscure personal goals.

Isabel wrote:

The mandate was that Mohale gets to pick his own team for his task. The spirit of that mandate was not to create a huge ring to benefit from his authority. An exclusive bunch that somehow gets all their research done while others have to make ridiculous applications only to be turned down no matter how important their research.

The membership of our ring is simply a formal way to denote that one has proven their ability and willingness to follow safe and efficient procedures in their research. Those who rather join other rings, can still prove this as they apply for their projects. This is what you refer to as "ridiculous applications". Let me assure you that these "ridiculous applications" are indeed necessary to minimize the risk for incidents. The claim that we routineously turn down the research of others is simply not true and I don't understand how anyone can come to such a conclusion: you only need to look at our project history (readily available for everyone) to realize that.

Isabel wrote:

As if this wasn't bad enough, the Scholars have resorted to corruption and haggling when deciding between projects. Simply put, whoever pays the best price for their lab time, gets it.

You must be referring to the donations we've received, or perhaps our consultation service. Yes, we do receive contributions from people who wish to support research but are not scientifically inclined themselves. We also offer consultation services to those who wish to do research but aren't certain how to do it safely and effectively. We do ask a fair compensation for that. You may use "haggling" or other dirty words for it if you like.

I understand why this thread has been created, Tianyi, but I fear it'll only encourage these accusations. Personally, I hope it'll become a very short thread, but I don't see that as a possible future.

Isabel, The Horizon, Senior Member
2.3.104

All right, I'll start with the basics for the benefit of new colonists, as well as the intellectually challenged, who may not have noticed the blatant powermongering by The Association of Scholars.

The reason why the admin rights of the science stations were given exclusively to the Scholars was to make sure every science project follows proper safety guidelines. That's all. However, since then the Scholars have abused this responsibility in various ways. The following is just a brief list of examples:

- They've taken it upon themselves not only to watch the safety regulations but also to decide which projects get done, blatantly favoring their own agendas.[/li]
- The mandate was that Mohale gets to pick his own team for his task. The spirit of that mandate was not to create a huge ring to benefit from his authority. An exclusive bunch that somehow gets all their research done while others have to make ridiculous applications only to be turned down no matter how important their research.[/li]
- As if this wasn't bad enough, the Scholars have resorted to corruption and haggling when deciding between projects. Simply put, whoever pays the best price for their lab time, gets it.

Let's start with those.

Tianyi, Da Vinci Collaboration (moderator)
2.3.104

Lately, it's become a sort of a problem that every discussion thread seems to be devolving into an argument between The Horizon and The Association of Scholars. Argumentation is fine, of course, as long as it's relevant to the topic of the discussion. However, references to past mistreatments, speculations on secret agendas unrelated to the topic, and general offensiveness are less than constructive.

This is why I've created this thread, dedicated to the arguments between The Horizon and The Association of Scholars. Whenever you're reading a discussion and feel like critisizing one of these rings about matters unrelated to the topic, please do it here. Any such posts posted elsewhere will be moved.

Thank you for following this guideline. Have a good discussion.

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(57 replies, posted in Seed: The Second Chance)

Wrote the article about the interview in TAU Space. The other article is still unfinished, so don't worry if it seems short.

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Grassroots Insights: Batch 448

DVI-Inet has began a series of interviews whose goal is to shed light on how the regular colonist feels about life in the Tower. Even though the work done by our leaders is important, the future is truly built by the hardworking repairmen, brave medics, and brilliant scientists that perform their work without asking for glory. With this series, DVI-Inet gives them a voice.

For each issue of the magazine, we're going to interview one batch of colonists. The first one our random number generator chose for us is batch 448, awakened on 10.5.104. The full batch consisted of Andrea, Mizuki, Tagato, Ishi, Mike, and Farid, the last of whom unfortunately was born without the sparkle of thought. The rest are live and well, and we managed to steal some of the time of Tagato, Ishi, and Mike. Ishi had to leave at an early point, but we got some good input from her nevertheless.

You've been part of the Tower community for half a year now. How has it been, to adjust to the way of life here?

Mike: It's very different from what the speedgrowth made us expect, of course.

Ishi: It was a shock at first, but I've adapted quickly.

Tagato: There was no problem for me, after realizing the situation.

You seem to have adapted well then. I suppose you've found yourselves a place in the Tower, a purpose perhaps?

M: A purpose? I don't think I ever thought about that. The everyday life, the constant work, has kept me far too busy.

T: Pressing problems, short-term goals and tasks. That's all it is for me.

I: I think people's choice of Ring says at leats something about their purpose, or at leats their hopes. What they think they're doing all this work for.

Yes, the rings. Mike and Ishi, I understand you chose The Horizon as your ring. Why did you pick that one out of all the possibilities?

I: The size was an important factor to me. A big ring like that can work towards long term goals, and I agree with theirs. The prospect of terraforming to an extent but still retaining Da Vinci's native beauty appeals to me.

M: When I joined The Horizon, it seemed the ring had the desire to make the whole Tower work together towards prosperity and survival. Now I'm not so certain anymore... They certainly have their share of plotting and schemes... But to be fair, they do take good care of their members.

May I ask you what kind of schemes are making you worried?

M: Secrecy, seeking to gain power over others... But I can't get into any details on this. In any case, they're far from perfect.

Have you considered changing your ring then?

M: The thought has crossed my mind. I doubt any ring is perfect, though - politics seem to be everywhere. I considered The Association of Scholars at one point, but they're no better than my current ring. The only viable option for me right now seems to be Society of Free Colonists.

What have you learned about The Scholars then?

M: I have reason to believe they're not being as open about their research as they make themselves seem. Knowledge is power, after all. Let's just say I have some reason to believe The Scholars are keeping some secrets about the reactivation of the AINNs during the Blackout. I fear they'll try to use them for gaining power over others.

Please tell the readers something about what you've been doing. Any special projects? Great successes or failures?

M: I've been working on the TAU Basecode Project, and damage control. And then certain things I'm not allowed to talk about. Oh, and during the Blackout I found out about the rogue Chimbots using a factory in Canyon C. At first, I didn't realize what they were, though.

Three of your patch have joined the same ring, while one, Andrea, has chosen to join Society of Free Colonists, whose views and methods are very different from The Horizon's. Has this come between you five or has the batch managed to stick together?

T: I think we get along well enough, dispite everything.

M: Society of Free Colonists is more of a loose group than a political entity, so there isn't so much political enmity. At least as far as I recall.

Where do you see yourselves five years from now?

T: Recycled...

M: I strive to be one of the best in my field, computer engineering.

How do you see Da Vinci, in your mind's eye, as you look into the future?

T: I don't look. What I see in the present is bad enough.

M: I haven't really thought about that.

Some people have placed hope on the prospect that sooner of later, there's going to be others coming from Earth or the other four colonies, to set things right in here. How do you feel about this idea?

T: We should assume the worst: that everyone's in the same kind of situation as we are.

I understand you've been baptised to The One Faith, Mike. Can you tell me what brought you to spirituality - not one of the most popular choices today?

M: I'm not sure really.  There's something comforting in the thought that some sort of higher being is watching over us, even if He does let bad things happen.  And that there is a better place our souls will go to when we die.

Some - most - would say that comfort comes from a lie.

M: Perhaps it is a lie.  Perhaps not.  Science can't really prove it one way or another.  But if that thought will help people to carry on even in the current bleak situation, it will help us towards a better tomorrow. I just hope people will not recreate the holy wars.

As we all know, the five most important virtues of The Technocracy are considered to be: Liberty, Wisdom, Creativity, Patience, and Solidarity. Which one do you think is the most important one?

T: Creativity. Problem solving drives drives society forward. The others are important as well - it's their perfect unity that makes them a working system.

M: Liberty and Solidarity. We have free will, and must be allowed to make our own decicions. However, the benefit of the community must always come before personal gain.

To conclude the interview: is there anything you'd like to say to the Tower?

M: Colonists, forget your differences.  Work together to save the Tower.

T: (shakes his head and stays silent)

We thank Mike, Tagato, and Ishi for their precious time, and hope this interview, and the others to come, will help people to broaden their perspectives. I, for one, have found the thoughts and ideas of these people inspiring, and will look forward to working with them towards the dream of a better future.

Lange, Da Vinci Information Network

A Journey to the Deep Beneath

On October 16th DVI-Inet got word from The Common Good that their best neurologist, Healer, had to go on an emergency visit in the most unlikely of places. He joined a team of Prospectors, venturing down the central shaft in order to help another team of Prospectors that had got into trouble during one of their explorations.

In addition to Healer, the rescue team consisted of Handa, Evao, Mick, Navago, and Garrock of the Prospectors. According to Healer, they had descended the central shaft using a portable elevator device called The Spider. Halfway down the shaft, they'd entered a series of cube-shaped halls behind one of the shaft walls. Then began the arguous part of crawling through cramped corridors.

"It never seemed to end", says Healer. "A tunnel after tunnel after tunnel. Several times I told the Prospectors I couldn't go on anymore, but they just pushed me on, helping me past the toughest spots. I'm sure they'd have carried me if there had been space for that."

After the tunnels Healer emerged high above an in-tower lake. "Either it was flooded at some point and never emptied or it was used to grow something underwater", Healer guesses. He was taken to the leader of the Prospectors, Mihailo, who was, in Healer's words, "floating on something that looked somewhat like a raft". The rest of the first exploration team were there as well: Ami, Harmast, and Ann of the Prospectors and Mizuki of The Horizon.

The reason Healer had been brought all this way down was to install a spinal prosthetic on Mihailo, since he had broken his neck in an accident. "I'm not lying when I say it was a close call", Healer explains. "They'd had to move him after the accident, which damaged the nerves severely, almost killing him. It'll be a long time before he gains full control of his body again."

This was the first time we heard about this endeavor. It seems the exact time and date of departure had been kept secret to avoid publicity. "We need to keep a low profile on takeoff", says Ami. "Or we might have the Lurkers waiting for us behind some curve in the tunnel." When asked what the goal of the expedition had been and what went wrong, Ami explains the goal for a few expeditions already have been to find a way down to the Lower Cluster, but like the previous ones, this turned out to be a dead end.

Mihailo was taken to the Common Good Hospital as soon as they got him off the Spider. When asked who will be leading the Prospectors while Mihailo's in recovery, Ami said that as the task would fall on her. "It's only temporary, of course", Ami adds. "He will be back in charge long before our next expedition."

We certainly hope so. Even though these expeditions seem to be finding one dead end after another, their importance can't be stressed too much. They're a natural extension to the great mission we're all part of - exploring and taming the unknown!

Picture of the thin and wrinkled Healer in a dark orange Envy Suit

Hamian, Da Vinci Information Network

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(57 replies, posted in Seed: The Second Chance)

Changed the lore so that the votes are public, to avoid TSR meddling.

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(57 replies, posted in Seed: The Second Chance)

Economy and voting have now been described.

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(4 replies, posted in Lore)

The Economy

The economy in the Tower revolves around administrators, material goods (raw materials, tools, spare parts...), favors, reputation, and access codes. Most people strive to support the work they deem most important, which usually means aquiring resources and reputation to themselves or their ring. This leads to a complex web of bargains going on constantly on high and grassroot levels of the Tower society.

Many consider this bargaining a distasteful waste of time but the sad fact is that if you don't participate in it, you don't get much done. There's a lot of free sharing and cooperation going on too, of course, but that's mostly between those with similar views.

Ownership

What you're carrying with you is generally considered yours and it's very rude to try to steal it. In addition, the truly valuable items are usually protected by owner chips, so robberies are very rare. Of course, most factories and such are also protected by owner chips.

Bartering

A major part of the Tower economy is the bartering of one thing for another. The central place for bartering is The Mall, but shadier deals are made in shadier places. One can barter anything from spare parts and raw materials to favors and administratorial rights.

Access Codes

Access codes can allow a variety of things, from receiving a single item from a sharepoint to the administrator's rights to a factory. They're shared through a direct, secure necklink connection, or if you don't trust that security, on datachips.

Sharepoints

Sharepoints are semi-spherical structures about two to twenty meters in diameter. They're connected to automatic underground storage spaces that store various items. At request, the items are brought from the storage to one of the sharepoint's hatches and given to the user. Alternatively, the user can donate items into the sharepoint.

Who can receive what from a sharepoint is dictated by its administrator. It can be completely free for all, or it can have any kind of advanced rule systems. Some store their items in a sharepoint and then trade access codes for those items to others. Other sharepoints may be accessible to members of one ring only. Some might employ complex trading logic, such as providing tools in exchange of raw materials or vice versa. A few even have a money-like point system where one has to gain points by donating items before being able to receive what they need. However, all such currencies are sharepoint or ring-specific.

Vote Trading

Accepting votes in a trade is a risky business, since a promise to vote for someone is just that, a promise. That's why vote trading is the most popular during the vote, when you can observe the vote being placed where it should.

Supporting Damage-Control Teams

There's no direct reward for doing repairs. However, few things are better for ones public image than being seen working on a piece of critical machinery, or being spoken well of by those who do. That's why many rings, particularly production-oriented ones, support repairers by supplying them with tools and spare parts. One could say that repairing provides one with reputation, which can be traded like any other commodity.

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The Voting Procedure

The elections are held every year, at New Year's Day Earth time. During that day, all administration rights of factories and other contested machinery are reallocated.

The Election Bits

The contested machinery is divided into election bits by TSR. One bit contains either one large piece of machinery or several smaller ones. For each bit, a separate election is held, with separate candidates and vote counts.

Candidacies

Any colonist, except for members of The Association of Scholars, can become candidate on any election bit. Also, one can be a candidate on several bits if one wishes.

The Voting

Every colonist has seven votes to distribute between different candidates on different election bits. They can be distributed any way one wishes: one can put them all on one candidate on one bit or distribute them among completely unrelated bits. The vote used to be anonymous, but after several accusations about TSR tampering with the results, they're now made completely open, even during the election.

Minimum Votes

There's a treshold of 20 votes that's required for any bit to change ownership. This is meant to lessen random fluxuation of ownership that disrupts the working processes in the tower.  This number of votes must be exceeded or the previous owner automatically wins. However, the treshold doesn't count as votes for the previous owner, so if there's significant demand for the machine, the owner must have equal support in votes to keep it.

The Winner

If the minimum vote is not met, the previous owner wins. If they are met, the winner is the one who gets most votes. If there's only one candidate, that candidate wins automatically. If there's a tie, the previous owner wins. If the previous owner wasn't part of the tie, a random method is used to pick the winner.

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What's Being Voted for?

The machines whose ownership comes under vote during the election runs can be roughly divided into the following groups:

Factories and workbenches: Machines used to produce tools, spare parts and other items. They've usually been built by colonists at some point. The bigger factories have one administrator each, while smaller ones, particularly workbenches, are divided into bigger admin sets. The block distribution is decided by TSR and is relatively unchanging. The factory admins can make changes to the factories and control who has access to the items produced.

Expensive tools: The most expensive tools can also be voted on, though this is less common due to minimum votes. Usually these tools are large machines instead of hand-held ones, but not always.

Raw material pumps: Perhaps the most contested administratorial position is the right to control the pumps that bring raw materials. Each pump has its own administrator who's allowed to ration the materials being pumped to colonists as they see fit.

TAU Core CPU time: The CPU time of the TAU AI Core (underneath Ringlab Alpha) is divided into 20 equal shares, each of which is designated a different administrator. The CPU admins schedule the computing between different projects. (If they leave some CPU time idle, it's shared between requests.)

Power distribution points: The plasma currents that transfer energy upwards from the reactor can be accessed only at designated points. (Often, there's a hub built around those points.) These have administrators to regulate the currents going to the different power lines leaving from those poitns. They can't control what's plugged into those lines, though. So far, power has not been really in shortage, so the power admin rights are usually easy to obtain.


Exceptions:

Science stations (Dec 104): Legacy to a decicion by a Ringleader Meeting, all administration rights to all science stations, including both laboratories and simulators, are exclusively in the hands of The Association of Scholars. This is to allow them to prevent people from doing unsafe experiments such as Tyler's project - one person with one labstation could jeopardize the entire Tower by accident. For balance, their ringmembers can't become candidates for other administratorial positions. Lately, there's been a lot of movement towards countering this special arrangement, but the needed unanimosity hasn't been reached.

Life-critical machinery: Certain critical machinery, such as floatbeds and life-support systems, doesn't have owner chips and thus can't be voted for. TSR and the Ringleader Meeting have decided that giving one person the control to shut them down could be disastrous. (Of course, the control now lies with TSR.)

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Okay, what's the opposite of a big-nosed cartoon dog...? A tiny-nosed live-action cat?

Okay, seriously, I'm guessing it's David Hasselhoff.

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(659 replies, posted in Steambaths)

Some big-nosed cartoon dog, perhaps?

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The "surface" of Saturn?

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Human skin up close?

So, the next session will be on Sunday the 24th February.

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(659 replies, posted in Steambaths)

A corn field from above?

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(12 replies, posted in Forum RP)

"Well, I could contact Fishface for you", said Siyanda. "He's running Lely's Nexus today, and if I ask nicely I'm sure he'll be willing to redirect one of the Chimbots to help you. However..." Siyanda glanced at Jenka. "He doesn't want to waste their time, though, so it better not be going to L2", Siyanda stated matter-of-factly. "Lely didn't work for years to gain control over TAU to make it a servant for delusional fools like the Lambda 41."

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"Who?" snapped Siyanda. "Is it the Lambda 41 again? You can tell them that calling their production runs 'emergency' will not make them any less ridiculous. I'm sure Johnathan knows exactly what to do with his own biomatter, don't you, Johnathan?"

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Owner Chips

The tower is basically an anarchy. If something isn't nailed down it can be picked up by anyone and there's little you can do about it. The only way to make sure something stays in your possession is to either lug it around at all times (you can take small items into the floatbeds with you) or tag it as your own.

To tag something as your own, you need to get a TSR issued owner chip. They can be installed in most powered tools, doors, factories and other machinery. In fact, most tools come with an owner chip already installed. The chip is used to control who can use the tool or machine, open a door etc. The chips are based on access codes, and are very difficult to crack. If someone tries to take the protected device apart, the owner chip will give an alert to both the owner and TSR. Such behaviour is generally considered destructive and is thus bad for ones reputation.

Simple tools, spare parts, etc. can't have owner chips. They can be stored behind a locked door in one of the lockerhalls, though.

Each chip has administrator rights (always one person only) that can be overridden only by a TSR master access. The administrator rights can be transferred to someone else if needed. In case of the death of the administrator, the chip will become TSR property, unless the administrator had named a successor.

The administrator can customize the chip to allow any number of people (or only themselves) access to the device. More advanced logic can be introduced by interfacing the chip with other hardware.

The owner chips are the basis upon which the voting system is built. At set intervals, TSR overrides the owner chips of all those machines on which it's been requested. Basically, you can contest the ownership of any tool or resource but the minimum votes take care that the smaller things aren't usually contested. After a voting procedure, the administrator rights are transferred to the winner of the election.

One can avoid the voting process by not installing owner chips into ones factory. In that case, however, no one needs to respect their ownership to the factory. In addition, if one tries to install some sort of an encrypted protection of ones own, TSR will send a Chimbot to crack it. With all of TAU's computing power behind them, it's very difficult to fight against. Nevertheless, some people have managed to get by with untagged factories.

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The Complete Lack of AP

There's no AP. At all. No one ever even thought of the flushed things or if they did they were smart enough to keep it to themselves.