Well.. Yes, it seems like a promising game, I've played it for an hour or so today

Stressful RP? You mean there's quite some combat in Haze?

I'll log on tonight, I got my real key now, juggling between two chars I want to play.

And yes, the manual is.. Eheh.. I remember the NWN1 manual, that was a proper manual. In this one, there is no information. If you want to know what feats are prerequisites for what skills, you'll have to have the old manual, or the D&D rules, heh.. Well, maybe there's a bigger manual pdf on the DVD, that's the trend these days.

You can either enter that IP or find 'NWN2 HAZE' under 'Roleplay' in the Gamespy servers list.

If you haven't heard back as they say, then you are accepted.

However, I couldn't play yesterday because.. uhm.. Yeah, I guess I need the game.. like.. Original So it'll take some days yet.

Con 3: Only knowing what your character knows is more immersive/realistic.

You know my view of that. It is personal, infact many, if not most RP'ers, if nothing else, then for convenience, prefer som degree of transparancy, so that they can know what is going on and enjoy other people's RP even if they are not there.

To me, that takes away most of the RP enjoyment. For me, RP is being your char, and only your char, slowly getting into the char, seeing the world as he or she sees it, reacting realistically and unbiased based on that, and being surprised and delighted at what others are doing when/if you figure it out.

Knowing without doubt that someone is a traitor without your char knowing for example, is not so much a problem in regards to cheating, as it is in regards to immersion and being sure your char is not influenced by this knowledge. Yes, you might be able to have your char react totally unbiased and without trying to get your char to look for holes in the traitor's story, because YOU know he is, but.. That's not fun, that's artificial, harder, non-immersive, to me. I want the surprise, the interaction, slowly getting to know other characters, not being sure what happens, trying to launch probes into the dark as it were. Just as all humans do. RP for me is RP'ing a char completely. It is not knowing the whole story or like reading a book. It is participation, unbiased, uninfluenced participation, where you slowly build up things, being sure there is no artificial reactions involved, and being sure that you are delighted at what your fellow players do and the chars they play.

For me, that simply requires non-transparancy, everything else is less RP for me, more artificial, less fun. The exception to that are simple, contained, narrativistic campaigns, where focus is not on character interaction/surprises, but more on the GM telling a story, railroading to a certain extent, and without focus on the players as such. But StSC is a big, ongoing thing by comparison. I would not like transparancy there. Or, more concretely, I wouldn't like getting to know things myself, but I don't mind if others know everything about all who agree on transparancy being best for them. I just don't want my char to participate in that, because that would seriously lessen my RP enjoyment, and the point of RP'ing.

That's my personal view and preference, I'm not going to force it down on others of course

I've applied, but haven't heard anything, so I'm waiting

Thanks for the heads up! I'll see if I get time this weekend.

I think this is amazingly restrictive for roleplayers, and I completely agree with Oluf. I also think you should Mir, instead of defending them

RP'ers stick to their chars and concepts, they would not chain like that. Socializers would, but there can't be that many, and NO other game has felt the need to do this. It is one of the most stupid things I've heard about, and hugely detrimental to any RP'er trialing the game.

And I might as well announce this now. Due to holiday, I won't be able to play the 2nd and 9th September Or any time in between that, for that matter.

Yes, I'd go with the pencil and sword crossing too. The D20 is a lovely nostalgic thing for me, but pencil and sword is more generic

So Mir, in the interest of humouring you:

1. Can you entertain guests in your homes?
2. Can you be a pilot doing whatever - trading, smuggling, fighting, exploring, no matter your class?
3. How are the options to ignore non-RP'ers?

And as a test. Make a list of things you think are SWG's negative points.

PBEM ruins the RP aspect some although you could always send emails and talk behind the backs of the others I guess.

I'm in either way though. MOO2 and AC support PBEM I think. So does the Civ series.