((letter sent to all guild members))

This Tria ((wednesday)), I would like to call a meeting of the council, and for all interested Seeds, at the 15th hour ((15.00 GMT)), hopefully in our new Guild Hall, which we will have purchased by then.

I have two topics I wish to discuss, one of which will be of fundamental importance as to how we function and act as a guild, the other to discuss some current issues and strategies. 

Of course, I hope we can also take this opportunity to celebrate our new Guild Hall. If not this Tria though, then hopefully at another time, soon.

If the other council members have some issues they'd like discussed, I hope they'll follow up on this letter with their own topics.

Hope to see as many of you as possible.

Yours,

- Perun

Subway to Sally with 'Ohne Liebe' (Hochzeit album)

Well.. I'd like of them buddy keys myself. I'll get a new computer in a month or so, and heck. 3 MMO's at the same time is no problem!

I don't like this, as I see it, artificial get-together so we can all RP together right from the start, especially not since it feels artificial. Sure, I have nothing against planned 'chance' meetings, but I'd prefer to just meet and slowly get to know people. At random, unless there's a very good, very fitting reason for something else.

Saying that we've all played Seed, and thus know each other. Well, that pre-supposes two things, as Norah pointed out:

1. that we do infact all know each other, more so than by our old Seed screen names, and have some reason to hang out together.

2. that we all have the same background story as a Seed player (meaning probably our own background story)

That's a little too assuming for my suspense of disbelief at least, and a little too much forcing players into certain roles imo.

In my view, we should make up individual chars, backgrounds and reasons for being where we are. We will meet up in time, probably also very early on. Then we can let it be up to our chars to interact and make bonds/a neighbourhood. And if they discover they hate each other? That's fine, then we don't force them to interact. We meet other RP'ers instead, forming bonds with them. Let's make it natural, not artificial. We won't miss out on RP since there are a lot of RP'ers hopefully, and we're still one big community, without having to force us together in game?

It's like forcing Faeron, Perun and Ract to be friendly and together for a common purpose. But what common purpose? It needs to be natural. Some of us will band together, sharing common views, others will band together with others. The only thing we need, is to get to meet and know each other at some point, and then go from there. That can be arranged without too much trouble, without shared backgrounds. Say, we have all heard about some special arrangement somewhere, or we all pop up at the same place, due to something. That's meta-RP in arranging a 'chance' meeting, but that's fine. It's also fine for me just to go around and meet other RP'ers randomly, slowly making bonds and playing my char. 

Of course, like in SoR, I'd think it interesting if some players made up connections to others via their backgrounds, to add flavour and a stronger reason to be together. That could be arranged between individuals, but need not be arranged for the whole group.

Overall though, I say. Let players make their backgrounds and RP. Let us meet up in game via real or arranged chance encounters. We don't need to get together no matter what. Or at least that's my take on it.

I say, we don't set up anything too artificial, because that won't be IC.

But, if say Norah goes ahead and make her, what was it, Seeds of the Great Tree? neighbourhood, or some other thing, and since it seems explorers get assigned random neighbourhoods, unless they chose themselves, we could say we 'randomly' ended up somewhat together, and then RP it naturally from there.

Royksopp - So Easy (Melody A.M)

Hiya there Suryi/Shotzie!

You can try to drive us crazy, but it'd be difficult I think. Anyway, great to see you here

That's a huge topic for sure Tantavalist. And I'm one of the persons who think that 'yet' added to the sentence is just wrong on several levels. You can't understand why things exist, as opposed to not exist no matter what you do with science. The same applies to religion of course. The existence of any god or gods can't explain why things exist. How does something come from nothingness into being? That's impossible to explain in science or religion. Sure 'yet', but I believe and hope 'always'. The answer to that question, if it exists, is more about spiritual insight than scientific research though. And yet not. Because spirituality and deep physics have a wonderful tendency to merge and become one out there where the really heavy physics and metaphysics reside. I can recommend reading Roger Penrose for a physicist/mathematician view into that understanding.

Anyway, I just wanted to say, I don't think things are all that simple. Luckily. And I don't think religion is the cause of all problems and science is the opposite. The cause of all problems are humans. No matter whether physicist or faithful. Of course, it's a huge topic.

Oh, and blind faith, the need to accept a truth to believe in that you cannot verify before you have given yourself to it, that might the biggest challenge, with the biggest possible reward. Our Danish philosopher Kierkegaard likened it to taking a voluntary jump into deep waters, meaning you cannot gain insight without a fully voluntary act of death or transcension. It might possibly show you the universe you cannot grasp by science alone. Imo of course

And I'm agnostic myself and greatly dislike views that negatively impact humanism. Many so-called religious views do that, though it's more about the people behind a religion and their traditions and mindset, than about the religion. The framework of the religion can be altered to fit in with the views that some people want to advocate. And if this was not done in the name of religion, humans would invent a new name to be able to do the same.
It's just not all black and white. Religion bad, science good. If you view it like that, the truth will elude you I think.

And apart from that, it's still much more fun RP'ing religious or fundamentalistic people with certain absolute and unyielding truths. Otherwise, it's a bit too 'flexible', i.e. nothing matters, everything goes. More fun RP when your characters and those you interact with have a certain 'bite' to them. Which they certainly have with those views

And to show I'm a cute guy deep down, not just a communistic satanist, I'm listening to AHA - Take on Me. I really like that song, and the video too. Sorry

Ok, it does sound interesting, I'll grant you that much now that I've seen it. But my computer still can't run NWN2, so..

I agree with you Esme. Which I think I've expressed here and there. We came from Seed. But we should grow to be more centered around us being RP'ers online, wanting to provide a place for a lot of grat people to meet and launch RP from.

And as for logs, yes that would of course be much better. You can do those in SoR, but of course I didn't, and instead have hundreds of megabytes of screenshots now But they'd go very well with an article, to show concretely what you're writing about. Well, we can see about all that when we get closer to having the programming and layout finished

Yes, write me down for the latter