Kryg, you said "That's why MMOs get away with less content/h than single-player games."

Actually, my point is that MMO's are full of content...they are so full of content that the devs forget to innovate the gameplay. Most single player games are very short content vice compared to mmo's, therefore the gameplay itself has to be more interesting for the player and this is where MMO's are failing. It seems that content > gameplay when in my opinion its the other way around...

Consider seed and how little content there actually was... however the gameplay was (well..almost was. If there had been working npcs with stories it would have been even better) simply good enough to keep us interested dispite the lack of content.

I dont think the answer is to make a game where everyone experince more or less the same thing but still have an effect on the world as dustman suggests. Making each time you play the game unique is the key... Sure it may be close to imposible but still...

The social aspect of mmo's are no dount one of the main reason for people to play them. As dark points out being able to say "hey! I just looted that new cool sword of doom" to a friend is rewarding to a lot of us. But I am sure it would be a lot more interesting if I was able to tell my friend of a unique experince that my friend couldnt duplicate simply by entering the same quest. Again, this doesnt mean I want a game so full of content that no one would be able to play the same quests, but creating a game where the setting simply allow each player to experince something unique.

I guess the main problem is the people who sit on all the money... Of couse they are interested in getting a profit in return for their investment. Maybe the investors simply dont play enough games themselves...If they did I am sure they would come to realise that mmo's are over simplified in terms of gameplay and all of them are more or less the same in the end.

I am looking forward to seeing offline games using more complex AI's... No doubt human interaction is more fun then the AI we are seeing in games now, but with a more complex AI maybe the desire to play static mmo's will decrease.

short..! Hm..I dont know if I could manage to read the long answer then

Anyway. Thanks for the report! To bad that everyone are running around minding their own buisness... Gotta admit that I had thought a game like LOTRO could lure in some roleplayers who knew all the lore and was interested in rp(and would maybe even initialize some roleplaying themselves instead of being shy! )

I agree with your last statement...I dont quite think it would be able to hold my interest either.. :\

Most likely turbine will be giving out trial codes soon (2-3 months), that is what they did with DDO...So maybe I will give it a go there unless all of you start playing the game and sits on a ton of buddy codes

hehe sweet...feels just like being trapped in radlock cycle again

very impressive

A real shame you guys didnt had a chance to implement this stuff :\

Just want to say thanks for the RP in Eve tonight... not having been part of SoR and not having played any muds/mushe'es with you all it was really nice to get to RP with you again

uh...lovecraft! cool!

Careful not to get your hopes up in regards to the "RP" part of mmorpg.... in my experince most newly announced games claim to be geared towards rp but as well all know most games are not...

nice. I like the ideas for what a hub could look like...you should have implemented some of those

heh nualas new post in this thread just inspired me to view sekras video again.... I just love the ending

very good idea nuala! thanks for taking the time to do it

yeah I am looking forward to seeing some pictures as well... Enjoy the first seed gathering!!

the real question is if that video is a render or actualy in-game footage...

anyway.. This is also one of the things i feel eve is missing and also one of the reasons i am not playing it.

Heh

I didnt know you had already sent them my way and they wernt in my inbox...so i checked my spam mail and for some reason it was there

Will give it a read